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Well now that Max has cleaned up the forum I will post my latest find. 
And talk a little bit about understanding the Vic circuit via diagrams below. 
And about the gate signal that goes to pin 5 of the phase lock loop through a geranium diode on PIN 22. 
Stan gives you a wonderful overview of the entire circuit design. 
There were a few component changes that took place in the schematics that Stan provided in the international patent. 
And many of you are wondering when I will post some oscilloscope of one Vic running with the gate. 
I’m awaiting on 1 part a 7404 hex inverter chip. The one currently I have is CMOS and a one I need is TTL. 
So in the meantime I thought it be prudent to post some information. 
I would like to point out that all potentiometer adjustments are locked down except for 3. 
That Stan had access to on the dashboard of the buggy. A duty cycle adjustment, gate frequency and 
voltage adjust to all 10 Voltage Intensifier Cards simultaneously. 
Further evidence in my opinion that it is 1 Voltage Intensifier Circuit per Water Fuel Capacitor. 

Ed 
PS 
Note in #5 it is stated variable duty cycle, variable clock pulse train and variable amplitude pulse train. 

Hi Ed, 
Are you going to repost all of your previous work on Slade's VIC board to show how it needed to be corrected/modified and jumpers installed. Or is there now a new circuit board that takes account of all your findings? 

Great work!! 


Yes I will re-post the voltage intensifier board, gated frequency generator and analog voltage generator. 
Also with the winding technique for the 5-TX coil pack. 
With complete parts list, including where to get the parts. 
The settings of the potentiometers on the Vic circuit set the voltage levels for the 5-TX coil pack. 
In other words the 5-TX coil pack need to be calibrated for the proper voltage level per Vic circuit. 
Especially if you’re using 10 Vic circuits being driven by 1 gated frequency generator along with the analog voltage generator. 

Now Stan never claims that 1 Vic circuit works alone. 
It seems to me he must have gotten some hydrogen production with "1" Vic circuit. 
When Don Gabel tried 1 Vic I believe he wasn’t feeding it with a gated frequency which is called for in the "International Patent". 
I’m waiting for 1 turn and 3 ½ turn 100K potentiometer for my voltage control, duty cycle and gate frequency adjustments. 
Ed 

PS 
My plan is to show oscilloscope shots on 1 water fuel cell and work backwards with posting the associated circuitry being used. 

If you go download the "meyer estate" shit off rwgfailsearch as I see you have you cannot use any of the resistor values written on the international patent by the orion guys.... for example on the analog voltage gen circuit there are many incorrect resistor values... some 1 k 's are acutaully 10 k 's .... on meyers board it will have random resistor values written on the board and the actual resistor is totally different than what is written on the board.... 

Well i honestly cant even get it to less than 100kb... i can just explain it, in the patent it shows the Emitter leg of Q3 in the analog voltage generator hooked up to two resistors and VCC.... 

in actuality its directly hooked up to the large blue capacitor, to the Op amp, to the idle pot and to two resistors..... the large capacitor is hooked up to the Accel circuit.... 

not sure whats up, pretty sure the intel patent was a very conceptual circuit .... 

 

Hunter1234 - 2014-12-24 7:09 PM 
If you go download the "meyer estate" shit off rwgfailsearch as I see you have you cannot use any of the resistor values written on the international patent by the orion guys.... for example on the analog voltage gen circuit there are many incorrect resistor values... some 1 k 's are acutaully 10 k 's .... on meyers board it will have random resistor values written on the board and the actual resistor is totally different than what is written on the board.... 


Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly. 
That’s the colorcode for resistors that I learned in school. 
Starting with zero=black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, gray and white. 
On the photographic evidence of the voltage generator I see 3 1K ohm, 4 47K ohm and 4 100k ohm. 
The one discrepancy I see is the 220k ohm which should be 270k ohm but is of small consequences 
seeing that is in series with 100 K ohm potentiometer. 
What I had wished Don Gabel was to push over the capacitors and then photographed them. 
That’s where the big mistakes were made on the capacitors. 
I finally found a 5 amp @1Kv diode. 

Ok, yes mabye I jumped the gun calling out the resistor colors...

 

All i know is that the Q3 Emitter leg that is suppose to be hooked up to VCC and two resisters is actually hooked up to a bunch of other shit 

Hunter1234 - 2014-12-24 8:01 PM 
Well i honestly cant even get it to less than 100kb... i can just explain it, in the patent it shows the Emitter leg of Q3 in the analog voltage generator hooked up to two resistors and VCC.... 
in actuality its directly hooked up to the large blue capacitor, to the Op amp, to the idle pot and to two resistors..... the large capacitor is hooked up to the Accel circuit.... 
not sure whats up, pretty sure the intel patent was a very conceptual circuit .... 


very conceptual circuit .... ??? 
A quote from the International Patent. 

"Control means are provided in the circuit for adjusting the amplitude of a pulsing cycle sent to the primary coil and for maintaining the frequency of the pulsing cycle at a constant frequency regardless of pulse amplitude". 

Regardless of pulse amplitude. 
Regardless of pulse amplitude. 

If you look at figure 4 in the block diagram above you see Stan says voltage amplitude control using that big power transistor 2N3055. 
And on the left side of the Vic you have 4 741 op amps and 3 250 V capacitors. 
That is a lot of voltage regulation and stabilization going to the primary !!! 
You're not going to cause any voltage drop from impedance on that primary with all that going on! 

 

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Go look at the leg of q3 hooked up to the vcc and tell me what you see

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Ok, yes mabye I jumped the gun calling out the resistor colors... All i know is that the Q3 Emitter leg that is suppose to be hooked up to VCC and two resisters is actually hooked up to a bunch of other shit 
 


Did you notice that it looks like the electrolytic capacitor that Don says is N/A (i.e. non-applicable). 
Looks to me that it’s part of the feedback of the op amp circuit. 
But you can’t read its value. 
That’s my one and only complaint about Don Gabel not documenting the capacitor values. 
And all those other people on ionization-X for not inquiring about that information when he was in possession of the circuitry. 
Ed 

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U will see that the schematic in the patent is totally different from what is on the board

 

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Hunter1234 - 2014-12-24 9:27 PM 
U will see that the schematic in the patent is totally different from what is on the board


Go look at the leg of q3 hooked up to the vcc and tell me what you see. 

It looks pretty close to me and tomorrow I will fire it up and see firsthand. 
The only part that I’m waiting on is the 5 amp 1KV diode. 
But I’m going to go with the current 3 A 1KV diode that I have. 
Oh by the way Merry Christmas everyone. 

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I’m having a problem getting an output from SN74122 One-Shot Multivibrator. 
The good news is the rest of circuit works good, you can see the yellow blinking LED and the square wave output from the 555 timer IC on the oscilloscope. 
The signal comes in on pins 3 and 4 but no output on 6 or 8 the yellow and red wires sticking out on the board. 
Ed 


Edited by REBOOT 2014-12-28 5:39 PM

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Are you familiar with the phrase timing is everything? 
Well here is the key to Stanley Myers pulse generation circuit. 

Please see the attached drawing and use the link below for understanding. 

http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/monostable.html 

This is the direct quote from the International Patent. 

“In the pulse generation means, an adjustable first, resonant frequency generator and a second gated pulse frequency generator are provided. 
A gate pulse controls the number of the pulses produced by the resonant frequency generator sent to the primary coil during a period determined by the gate frequency of the second 
pulse generator” 

Ed 

PS 
Let's start off the New Year with a water generated hydrogen bang.

Stan Meyer has, like all experimenters, gone through several stages of development in his work. 
Can you explain the development of the ideas in the international patent and the theory involved? 

Thanks.

 

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Well now that I have an output with the Tony Woodside modification. 
We can see the gate signal that goes to pin 22 of the voltage intensifier circuit. 
You’ll notice very little change in duty cycle and a frequency range of 95 Hz to 185 Hz. 
So next I will change the 47K ohm resistors back to the 4.7K ohm resistors and see what the results look like. 
Ed 
PS 
This is what goes to pin 5 of the inhibit mode pin of the PLL via the geranium diode. 
Did you know that RF probes use geranium diodes ???  
Also note these are positive going triggers and the inhibit mode requires negative going triggers. 
In order to turn the phase lock loop on or off. 

REBOOT - 2015-01-06 2:44 PM 
Perhaps this is premature sense am still having problems getting an output with Slade Outlaw’s 
accurately replicated Stanley Meyer gated pulse generator circuit board. 
So I decided to do some comparisons with Tony Woodside’s circuit board. 
ED 
PS 
Doesn’t look a little silly that Stan has to use a blocking capacitor/Noise Filter to keep from shorting out the power supply? 
Apparently Tony is a very smart guy because now I see a useless component just eliminate the ground and all will be right with the world. 
I don’t think it’s necessary to filter a DC power supply. 


I need to make an update correction. 
In order to get Slade Outlaw’s board working I had to make some modifications. 
Tony Woodside Circuit eliminates 1 capacitor which changes the ground on my board. 
There is no pull-up resistor needed and everything is electronically the same as Stanley Myers figure 6. 

This is right from the International Patent. 

"As noted above, the circuit of Figure 6 produces a gate pulse frequency. 
The gate pulse is superimposed over the resonant frequency pulse to create a duty cycle that the resonant frequency pulse to create a duty cycle that 
determines the number of discrete pulses sent to the primary coil. 
For example, assuming a resonant pulse of 5 KHz, a .5 Hz gate pulse may be superimposed over the 5 KHz 
pulse to provide 2500 discrete pulses in a 50% duty cycle per Hz. 
The relationship of resonant pulse to the gate pulse is determined by conventional signal addition/subtraction techniques" 

This is what's going to synchronize 10 voltage intensifier circuits !!! 
Along with the analog voltage generator Figure 3. 

And with the Voltage Trap Equalizer (i.e. water well & water jacket). 
The Harmonic Resonant Cavity should work as Stanley Meyer advertised !!! 

Max what's the permeability of the soft ferrite core ??? 

VR 
Ed 
PS 
People are requesting me to re-post information, but they never download the information ??? 
Maybe they have photographic memories  

 

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Where can I get this circuit board which has on it these three circuits: the variable pulse frequency generator, plus the gated pulse frequency generator plus the analogue voltage generator ? 

Paul 


Boy did you just open a can of worms. 
Believe it or not, I’ve had that board for more than 2 ½ years. 
Between arguing with Max and learning how to wind bobbins properly. 
And trying to convince Max that we need 10 channels to drive the 'Harmonic Resonant Cavity' 
is why I decided to interpret the International Patent for everybody. 

For the past two weeks, I’ve been pestering Max to get the schematics and the artwork for the PC board from Slade Outlaw. 
For the sole purpose of either duplicating for sale either in Max Miller’s web store or the Stanley Meyer Web shop. 

http://www.stanleymeyerwebshop.com/ 

Or maybe Max would post the information here on his forum. 

But Max claims that the 2 stores are not making any money. 
Maybe now that we know we need a gate circuit in order to operate the Vic. 
Max or Per Ritter won’t be selling any Voltage Intensifier Circuit's now or will they? 

RAVENOUS EMU 11 CELL UNIT 
http://wasserwandel.info/Drawing1.pdf 
Delrin 
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-acetal-homopolymer-rods/=vj8228 

Would anybody like to get some quotes from your local machinist? 
In order to lay the groundwork to start a hydrogen revolution. 
VR 
Ed 
PS 
The only one man Army I know of was Nikolai Tesla and even he needed George Westinghouse 

 

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Ed, 
Your drawing above of the anode and cathode has different dimensions to those shown on Ravenous Emu sheets 8 and 9. Which ones are correct or doesn't it matter? 
Paul.


I can’t see any discrepancies in pages 8 & 9, when compared to Tony Woodside's drawing. 
But Tony Woodside information does include the all-important gap dimension. 
In ordering your stainless steel T-304 as spelled out in the "International Patent" 
It comes in two different wall thicknesses which obviously will affect your gap. 
In stages I, III and stage IV the gap is identical so if any number needs to be doubled and tripled checked 
it is this one 0.0950” the gap. 
Stan says the work is done in the gap and voltage does the work. 
Fracturing, disassociating and/or breaking the bond on the water molecule thereby liberating the shackles of mankind. 
VR 
Ed 
PS 
Don't forget the heatsink and chassis when doing a price check at your local machine shop. 
Also be sure to remind your machinist when turning the T-304 stainless steel rods to use plenty of lubricant to keep them cool. 
I also learned from Max Miller that using peanut oil or vegetable oil as a cooling lubricant is better for your health and the environment. 
When you found your machinists bring the vegetable oil with, you nobody likes to be told how to do their job. 
This heatsink drawing is made by Max Miller, give credit where credit is due. 
But the 7 3/4 length might work out better because that the same size as the Vic thereby making your chassis easier to build. 
And the bobbins will still fit. 




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3 years ago when I began this quest with Max Miller and Company. 
Slade Outlaw in Florida and Mr. Per Ritter of Copenhagen Denmark. 
Max and I even considered that the aluminum heatsink may have possessed some special properties. 
Due to the construction of them being sandwiched together that they might have helped confine 
and concentrate the magnetic field on the bobbins also possibly aiding in the efficiency. 

I strongly recommend 20AWG SOLID 9 different colors HOOK-UP WIRE in your construction of the heatsink. 
I strongly recommend 20AWG SOLID 9 different colors HOOK-UP WIRE in your construction of the heatsink. 

And special care needs to be taken in drilling the threaded holes to accommodate the bobbin. 
This cannot be stressed enough! 
The 2000 permeability soft ferrite cores are extremely fragile. 
Also matchbook thickness to make your gap. 
Remember the bifillar wind feedback coil TX-3 sits over this gap. 

So please take your time in this step in the process. 
You will need to use diamond flat files and fingernail emery board to aid you in this process. 
So that the soft ferrite cores don't have to struggle in their new home. 
If I had the money I would take my heatsinks to the machine shop and make better accommodations. 
And don’t forget the all-important 30° and 45° bevel on the bobbins. 
Very respectable most of the time. 
Edward W Chanson 

Ed, 

I see that on sheet 9 of Ravenous Emu, the inside diameter of the tube is 0.625 but on your diagram it is 0.69 (which is 0.75 less 2 x wall thickness of 0.03). 

Which is correct ? 

Thanks again, 

Paul.

 

Before somebody slams me and tells me I forgot the 220 ohm wire wound 5 W resistor, I didn’t. 
What me started on this 3-year quest was the workmanship that went into this bobbin housing. 
And then it dawned on me, "the reflective nature of aluminum"  
The world’s first communications satellite was a high-altitude BIG mylar aluminum balloon. 
Aluminum foil is commonly used for shielding in communication wire to prevent crosstalk. 
If that doesn’t bake your potato, I don’t know what will. 
VR 
Ed 
PS 
I think Stan told the truth, don’t you? 
I think we owe Don Gabel a big thank you.

Ed, 
I see that on sheet 9 of Ravenous Emu, the inside diameter of the tube is 0.625 but on your diagram it is 0.69 (which is 0.75 less 2 x wall thickness of 0.03). 
Which is correct ? 
Thanks again, 
Paul.


Patent US4936961 - Generation of hydrogen and oxygen by ... 
http://www.google.com/patents/US4936961 

A preferred construction material for the capacitor plates is a stainless steel T-304 which is non-chemically reactive with water, hydrogen, or oxygen. 
In ordering your stainless steel T-304 as spelled out in the "International Patent" 
It comes in two different wall thicknesses which obviously will affect your gap. 
In stages I, III and stage IV the gap is identical so if any number needs to be doubled and tripled checked 
it is this one 0.0950” the gap. 
VR 
Ed 
PS 
That's not my diagram, that belongs to Tony Woodside's. 
Give credit where credit is due. 

http://www.mcmaster.com/#304-stainless-steel-tubing/=vkwv1f 

Just when I think I discovered all of Stanley Meyer secrets, I found '1' more. 
Look at that 'WIRE WOUND' 220 ohm 5 Watt resistor sitting in the middle of that pulsing magnetic field! 
There must be some inductive coupling going on in that puppy. 
Ed 
PS 
Maybe now you understand my handle (i.e. REBOOT) 


Edited by REBOOT 2015-01-22 8:17 PM

paulb - 2015-01-23 7:21 AM 

Ed, 
Look at international patent WO9207861A1, on page 7 it states "0.5 inch rod enclosed within 0.75 inside diameter cylinder". 
But Don Gabel drew 0.75 outside diameter and .03 thick cylinder walls making his measurement .69 for the inside diameter of the cylinder. 
Is the patent right or Don Gabel right? How can we find out? 
Paul.


As previously mentioned stock tubular T304 stainless .75 inch comes in two flavors. 
http://www.mcmaster.com/#304-stainless-steel-tubing/=vkwv1f 

0.120" Wall Thick 
0.083" Wall Thick 

It’s a safe assumption that we want a small gap. 
0.5 inch Rod + 0.13 Gap=0.63 + 0.120=0.75 inch 

So gap is 0.13 of an inch. 
Ed 

PS 
Also, I would stay away from polished T304 stainless steel. 
Maybe Max Miller would to chime in and offer some input on this, since he's pretty good at making bubbles.

REBOOT - 2015-01-23 9:03 PM 

Well did you catch my mistake yet? 
You have a gap on two sides! 
Take a compass and make circle that is a 1/2 inch in diameter. 
Now take a compass and make a circle that is ¾ in diameter. 
And tell me what the gap is? 
Is there anybody out there that remembers geometry? 
Ed 


Occasionally I can make things more complicated than need be. 
So my first answer looks good. 
Using 0.120" Wall Thickness ¾ Inch Outside Diameter T304 stainless steel TUBE. 
0.5 inch Rod + 0.13 Gap=0.63 + 0.120=0.75 inch outside diameter (i.e. O.D.) 

So gap is 0.13 of an inch. 
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(2 concentric circles) 
Concentric circles are circles with the same center. 
In other words a 1/2 Inch rod centered in a 3/4 Inch outside diameter circle. 
Mathematically they call that 0 external tangents & 0 internal tangents. 

Ed 

 

Well this is kind of embarrassing. 
Since I can’t do geometry 
I cheated and I pulled out the analog calipers and I get a reading of .065 thousands of an inch. 
Which is 0.13 of an inch divided by two. 
So the gap = .065 thousands of an inch.

 

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Dr.V-Dubious - 2015-01-24 7:48 AM 
Grand-master ED, I have no place in your echelon, granted. your repertoire does have a simple explanation of meyers , "--throttle--" ? no mention in this forum so far,the populace thanks you!


Thank you for that complement. 
We have nothing to lose and everything to gain, if we just follow Stanley Meyer’s instructions. 
A picture is worth 1000 words and Max Miller asked a question how many words is a video worth. 
It takes an army to start a Hydrogen Revolution. 
I’m doing my best to lay the groundwork. 
Ed 
PS 
These are my approximate measurements on my T-304 stainless steel water capacitor. 
I am somewhat confused by the listed wall thickness of the manufacturer. 
0.120" Wall Thick 
My analog calipers say.05 inch. 

 

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the 'mute' pause in potential, before cold fusion. 
lord max said:'max'imum potential -"just"- before arc.. 
this video helps me understand 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=MPD7skZ8OSo&x-yt-... 
different types of water would need the variable adjustment. 
and so any tube size, so long as they 'ping' equal in mass= inner tube long+thick wall, outer tube shorter+thin wall.. to match weight? 
would be nice if 'gap' was adjustable for die-electric constant(maybe a split core like tesla, adjust by sqeezing clamps)?

 

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http://www.speedymetals.com/c-8276-round-tube.aspx?thickness=0.75 
Well it seems in answering Paul's question. 
I see that we have 4 flavors of T304 stainless steel to choose from. 

C: .035" 
C: .049" 
C: .065" 
C: .120" 

3/4" OD {A} x 0.680" ID {B} x .035" {C} Wall 304 Stainless Steel Tube (Tubing), Annealed 3/4" OD 
3/4" OD {A} x 0.652" ID {B} x .049" {C} Wall 304 Stainless Steel Tube (Tubing), Annealed 3/4" OD 
3/4" OD {A} x 0.620" ID {B} x .065" {C} Wall 304 Stainless Steel Tube (Tubing), Annealed 3/4" OD 
3/4" OD {A} x 0.510" ID {B} x .120" {C} Wall 304 Stainless Steel Tube (Tubing), Annealed 3/4" OD 

So we have some more investigation to do. 

Because the gap is critical! 
Because the gap is critical! 
Because the gap is critical! 

Thank you Paul, that was a very good question !!! 
Mr.Paul Butcher you hit the ball out of the park with that question. 

Ed 
PS 
Can you show us where Don Gabel posted that information. 
Also cut and past with MS paint here on Max Miller's forum. 
Please.
How important is the gap? 
Maybe this document from Stanley Myers 8-XA electrical polarization unit will help drive the point home. 

Note 3 A@30 V with a maximum 10K hertz positive pulse frequency. 
Waters cut off frequency is 300 Hz after that it becomes a voltage trap equalizer due to its reflective nature. 
Hence the name Harmonic Resonant Cavity. 

And he is also famous for saying you have to ask the right question! 

This is Stan Meyers secret formula and here is my secret formula. 
THE POWER IN USING #3 
What are the rules for troubleshooting. 
Always have an identical replacement part in case you screw up. 
I do fire alarm work, so the last thing I want to do is compromise the system by shorting something out. 
Always have a known good quality part for comparison. 

3 rules of science. 
Trial and error. 
Process of elimination. 
And if at first you don’t succeed try try again. 
Geewhiz sounds like the same formula that I used to live life. 

Wisdom from Stanley Meyer. 
"People who succeed are those who have failed more often" 
Put your questions in simple one sentence lines and not paragraphs with comments of your own 
to clutter the question. KISS (keep it simple stupid, as Stan would say). 
Then I will answer them if I can . 

THE POWER IN USING #3 is reducing everything to its lowest common denominator. 

The Positive =communication, teamwork and checklist and/or spreadsheet 
The Negative= racism, hypocrisy and or fear and/or lack of trust. 
The Trinity= religion, triad, and family. 
In Psychology= Id, Ego and Superego 
In Communication= subject, verb and noun. 
In Mathematics= units, operation and the resultant. 
In Physics= neutrons, protons and the electron. 
In Electricity fundamentals components= capacitor, inductor & resistor. 
In Construction =Pyramid, triangle and truss framing. 

Simple as a pie=3.1428 It's all about ratio and proportion. 

Just a coincidence ???

Seamless Stainless Tube 304 
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=14753&step=4&showunits... 
This is the closest that I could find that matches Don Gabel’s measurements of .030 wall thickness. 
If you check the sketch drawing that Don Gabel made on stage I. 
You will see it's also listed as 0.030 and a photographic evidence seems to support this. 
Obviously this is allows for a slightly larger gap which should aid in hydrogen bubble production. 

magnetic core soft ferrite 
3c96= ui permeability 2000 
3c96= ui permeability 2000 
3c96= ui permeability 2000 

http://www.ferroxcube.com/FerroxcubeCorporateReception/datasheet/FX... 

Ed 
PS 

I only need to make 1 amendment the 50 K ohm potentiometer's 
need to be a minimum of 500 mW power rating on the Voltage Intensifier Circuit. 


Edited by REBOOT 2015-01-26 7:58 PM
 

Dr.V-Dubious - 2015-01-24 10:37 AM 
the 'mute' pause in potential, before cold fusion. 
lord max said:'max'imum potential -"just"- before arc.. 
this video helps me understand 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=MPD7skZ8OSo&x-yt-... 
different types of water would need the variable adjustment. 
and so any tube size, so long as they 'ping' equal in mass= inner tube long+thick wall, outer tube shorter+thin wall.. to match weight? 
would be nice if 'gap' was adjustable for die-electric constant(maybe a split core like tesla, adjust by sqeezing clamps)? 


You notice the form is now broken up into specialized categories! 
This is not the ColdFusion thread! 
Today’s society has done away with old-school approach. 
My definition of old-school is, you started out in the mail room and work your way up to CEO. 
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Wisdom from Stanley Meyer. 
"People who succeed are those who have failed more often" 
Put your questions in simple one sentence lines and not paragraphs with comments of your own 
to clutter the question. 
KISS (keep it simple stupid, as Stan would say). 
Then I will answer them if I can. 
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The beauty of the Stanley Meyer system is that it teaches us what one individual can do 
To be clear in their own living room and garage. 
I’m doing this in a small apartment were the bedroom is in the living room. 
Ed

Edited by REBOOT 2015-01-27 6:51 AM

Grand Master ED, everyone looks to you for guidance, you are the open book of truth and resolute, you make a mountain out of a molehill,, but your loved- an integral treasure-stay your course- for the people. you harvest the most important info for the majority. 

so one line questions, ok: 

Q: what is the step up of the VIC? (say- 5amps 12volts into VIC,,, what comes out?)
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What I’ve tried to do and I believe I did. 
Make this as simple and easy to understand as humanly possible. 
Also stick to the irrefutable facts that are in the photographic evidence that Don Gabel 
and Stanley Meyer provided in the International Patent and The Birth of A New Technology. 
Of course I've borrowed a lot of information from other people besides Don Gabel and Stanley Meyer. 

Now do I want to discuss waveguide action, not really. 
How about steam resonator water fuel cell #11. 
Does it do anything else besides keep the water from freezing? 
I think it does, it’s no longer a perfect circle. 
Is the Harmonic Resonant Cavity elliptical in shape now? 
No, but the symmetry is affected. 
Do electrons travel in elliptical orbits the same way our planet’s do in our solar system? 

What’s the difference between the polarization process and electron bounce phenomena? 

I enjoyed your video on the construction of high-voltage capacitors. 
And I really do think we should make a thread on standard electronic capacitors. 
And another thread just on different types of inductors. 
Nikolai Tesla was a master coil winder and think he did all of that without having a diode. 
Ed 

PS 
Does an electromagnetic radio wave have any current and/or amps in it? 

aster ED_ faith like yours can move mountains! 
 

REBOOT - 2015-01-27 5:10 PM 

How about steam resonator water fuel cell #11. 
Does it do anything else besides keep the water from freezing? 


[ Answer: a small amount of steam in(engine) combustion super expands(aids compression), transfers heat out of engine(runs cooler), and prevents carbon deposits.] 

(Ed PS- Quote) 
Does an electromagnetic radio wave have any current and/or amps in it? 

Answer:= of course you can get current/amps from radio/wireless waves. Thomas Henry Moray demonstrated his aerial hundreds of times getting four-thousand watts from(thin air)the aether. Tesla proved his aerial too. like condensing water from steam. we are surrounded by energy in this electric universe, we are also electric. 

are you saying: (and I hope you are) that the resonance of meyers cell summons the gods of power to contribute(some wireless connection), like Moray+Tesla? Do you suspect overunity in the 'VIC' ? 

original question= what is the Voltage Intensification ratio of the 'VIC'. ? 
example: put ten in,,get a hundred out? it is a transformer right? meter readings.
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Visita Interiora Terrae Rectificando Invenies Occultum LapidemMaster ED 

would you say it is in the scope of the invention that the resonant cavity holds input power(like capacitor) and 'fractures' water molecules during the gate(off input power)... that is the efficiency ?
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Visita Interiora Terrae Rectificando Invenies Occultum Lapidemoltage Intensifier: http://uploads.ru/GFEVk.jpg  
and ... US6488617

Edited by alset 2015-01-28 3:05 PMThe mistake I make and everybody else makes is what Stan said. 
You have to ask the right question. 
And you have to listen to what I said. 

I said reduce everything to its lowest common denominator. 
Also learn to think in opposites for example. 

Brute force electrolysis is the exact opposite of the Stanley Meyer process. 

Stan says let voltage DO THE WORK !!! 

Voltage is a difference of potential. 
Let me say that again: voltage is the difference of potential period. 

Now the water fuel capacitors, electrodes and/or cells are capacitors plates with water in between. 
Now how many ways can you make electricity? 
Ans: static, battery, magnetic induction, piezoelectric and 1 to 2 more. 

AC is the exact opposite of DC. 

A capacitor is the exact opposite of an inductor. 
A capacitor is the exact opposite of an inductor. 
A capacitor is the exact opposite of an inductor. 
Almost 

Ohms law only deals with DC. After that you enter into trigonometry. 

Again think in opposites a capacitor has voltage in between the plates. 
There is absolutely no current in till it is discharged. The same is true of lightning. 

So I’ll ask you again, is there any current and or amps in an electromagnetic wave. 

The answer is no. Not until the alternating voltage HIT’S the receiving antenna and is amplified. 
It is pure alternating voltage with no current with magnetism going along for the ride. 
Why is that important. 
Because a transmitting antenna has two poles. 
In a.m. radio one is called the ground plane and the other the antenna. 

Stanleys electrode plates are called a cathode and an anode. 

Now I am not a physicist and you all don’t need to be one either. 
Just read and look at the pictures in the Birth of A New Technology and the photographic evidence 
that Don Gabel gave us and just ask yourself why did he do that. 
It is probably easier for you to look at what I posted. 

Dr.V-Dubious - 2015-01-28 7:05 AM 
Master ED_ faith like yours can move mountains! 

 

REBOOT - 2015-01-27 5:10 PM 
How about steam resonator water fuel cell #11. 
Does it do anything else besides keep the water from freezing? 


[ Answer: a small amount of steam in(engine) combustion super expands(aids compression), transfers heat out of engine(runs cooler), and prevents carbon deposits.] 

There are two different steam resonators. 
One is in the Harmonic Resonant Cavity that makes it un-symmetrical and prevents the water from freezing. 
The other one is in the 10 gallon rectangular water tank. 
And only has one job to prevent the water from freezing. 
Read and look at the pictures and "IN The Birth of a New Technology"  

(Ed PS- Quote) 
Does an electromagnetic radio wave have any current and/or amps in it? 

Answer:= of course you can get current/amps from radio/wireless waves. Thomas Henry Moray demonstrated his aerial hundreds of times getting four-thousand watts from(thin air)the aether. Tesla proved his aerial too. like condensing water from steam. we are surrounded by energy in this electric universe, we are also electric. 

are you saying: (and I hope you are) that the resonance of meyers cell summons the gods of power to contribute(some wireless connection), like Moray+Tesla? Do you suspect overunity in the 'VIC' ? 

original question= what is the Voltage Intensification ratio of the 'VIC'. ? 
example: put ten in,,get a hundred out? it is a transformer right? meter readings.
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The mistake I make and everybody else makes is what Stan said. 
You have to ask the right question. 
And you have to listen to what I said. 

I said reduce everything to its lowest common denominator. 
Also learn to think in opposites for example. 

Brute force electrolysis is the exact opposite of the Stanley Meyer process. 

Stan says let voltage DO THE WORK !!! 

Voltage is a difference of potential. 
Let me say that again: voltage is the difference of potential period. 

Now the water fuel capacitors, electrodes and/or cells are capacitors plates with water in between. 
Now how many ways can you make electricity? 
Ans: static, battery, magnetic induction, piezoelectric and 1 to 2 more. 

AC is the exact opposite of DC. 

A capacitor is the exact opposite of an inductor. 
A capacitor is the exact opposite of an inductor. 
A capacitor is the exact opposite of an inductor. 

Ohms law only deals with DC only. After that you enter into trigonometry. 
Yes I know ohms law is part of the AC formula.. 
But ohms law by itself deals with DC only. 

Again think in opposites a capacitor has voltage in between the plates. 
There is absolutely no current in until it is discharged by someone or something. The same is true of lightning. 
But with lightning the charge gets so big and then it ionizes a path either up into outer space or to a ground zero reference point. 

So I’ll ask you again, is there any current and/or amps in an electromagnetic wave. 

The answer is no. Not until the alternating voltage HIT’S the receiving antenna and is amplified. 
It is pure alternating voltage with no current with magnetism going along for the ride. 
Why is that important. 
Because a transmitting antenna has two poles. 
In a.m. radio one is called the ground plane and the other the antenna. 

Stanleys electrode plates are called a cathode and an anode. 

Now I am not a physicist and you all don’t need to be one either. 
Just read and look at the pictures in the Birth of A New Technology and the photographic evidence 
that Don Gabel gave us and just ask yourself why did he do that. 
It is probably easier for you to look at what I posted. 
Ed

Edited by REBOOT 2015-01-28 5:01 PM

Thanks to the Internet and MIT U-TUBE videos 
http://videolectures.net/mit802s02_lewin_lec01/ 
You too can get a free education from Prof. Walter H. G. Lewin, 
Lecture 1: What holds our world together? Electric Charges (Historical), Polarization, Electric Force, Coulomb's Law 
Maybe Max can get validated by this gentleman Prof. Walter H. G. Lewin. 
But if we have learned anything from Nikolai Tesla and how his funding was pulled by J.P. Morgan. 
Wardenclyffe Tower was demolished by the military because Nikolai Tesla announced that he could effect the weather. 
Which is what HAARP is doing today. 
HAARP 6.792,5 kHz frequency with a center frequency of 6.5 K hertz 
and Stanley Meyer likes a center frequency of 5 kHz. 

And Max forgot to mention my obsession with the #3 
We have a 30° bevel on the bobbins. 
We have 3 inches across the water well from cathode to cathode. 
We have Stanley Meyer using 3 AMPS @ 30 VOLTS 
We have to 300 Hz cutoff frequency on water. 
Stanley Meyer also used the rotor phaser which is 3-phase. 
We have 30gauge wire on the bobbin LOL  

Dendrite Snowflake snowflakes 30 degrees 

http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/wallpaper/photography/pho... 
http://www.worldculturepictorial.com/blog/content/the-science-snowf... 

Twelve-Sided Snowflakes Sometimes capped columns form with a twist, so that two six-branched crystals form end plates that are rotated thirty degrees. 

Water is the only substance on planet Earth that can be either liquid, solid or gaseous. 
And Stan Meyer talks about the snowflake in the Bible. 
Job 38:22 
http://www.irondmax.com/irondmax/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8... 
http://www.irondmax.com/irondmax/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8... 

So I ask you all how much validation do you need to know that Stanley Meyer told the truth. 
Mr. Ed says you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.  

 

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Master ED, radiolysis was mentioned by guild-member= Hunter, (EPG discussion), 11cell.he is wise. 

that brings up similarities between Meyers cell and a magnetron,alpha waves will help fracture aswell. Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Dr.V-Dubious - 2015-01-30 1:45 AM 
Master ED, radiolysis was mentioned by guild-member= Hunter, (EPG discussion), 11cell.he is wise. 
that brings up similarities between Meyers cell and a magnetron,alpha waves will help fracture aswell. 
Do you have any thoughts on that?


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Yes, alpha waves (i.e.brain waves). 
I live and work in spin city. 
And what I’ve learned is that we as human beings are only motivated by manipulation. 
We say trust in God to have faith in ourselves, in other words we have no belief system. 
Because we don’t have faith in our government to do miracles !!! 
What I have learned that in order to find miracles "1" has to do their own journey. 

This is called experience, which new school does not teach. 
This is called experience, which new school does not teach. 

You come here to learn secrets, but the only way to learn secrets is by developing voltage. 
The difference in potential. 

Ask not what my country can do for me, but what I can do for my country. 

We have the potential to make a difference. 
We have the potential to make a difference. 

But in order for voltage potential to do the work, we have to work together. 
This is called teamwork.  

But without trust and/or faith, mountains will never be moved. 
Our founding forefathers the framers of the Constitution understood the power of THE #3. 
Ed 

 

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REBOOT - 2015-02-03 3:53 PM 
Yes, alpha waves (i.e.brain waves) 
Ed 


Sorry no 
Master ED, I am just 'gollum' below you, and do apologize for obtuse questions; your answers are equally abstract. 

the last question was about voltage/frequency reaching microwave,and(with isotope ingredients) gamma-ray potential(alpha-beta), to fracture water molecules. 
(Majesty Meyers might have experimented with secret ingredients) 
I hope that's clear,,, and modified the question properly,, if thats not clear, then its lost in a rut of misinterpretation, and I do apologize for the annoyance. (but must admit your over clarification of certain points helps people)everyone thanks you.
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The key to understanding the Stanley Meyer process is the trigger voltage. 
And the 5-TX coil pack produces a unique positive pulse that affects the dielectric constant of a water molecule. 

We see the numerous tube configurations used in previous stages of development. 
We see Stan going from approximately 20 inches in length down to a solid rod 2.75 inches in length. 
We see Stan using a Harmonic Resonant Cavity that is no longer symmetrical with 10 water fuel capacitors. 

Stan says the Atomic Energy Balance of Water !!! 

So the question is what happens when our economy is out of balance. 
So the question is what happens when we are out of balance with nature. 
So the question is what is the definition of a mature civilization. 

Hopefully Max Miller will find a recipe to make time. 


Are you sharing the cad files for the work that you did to recreate the resonate cavity? 
Or would you feel more comfortable that I use the sketches that you provided? 

These delrin components look like they could easily be 3D printed FDM/FFF style using nylon 'Bridge' filament or even SLA commercially.

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the drawings are 20 dollars to reimburse slade for his time and effert 
email me at irondmax@gmail.com i will send a request for you to pay the 20 dollars and send the money to slade. then email you the files 

or of course you can use the drawings posted above 
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Is it important that Stan Meyer had two different configurations for his tube sets. In US Patent 4936961 Stan mentions one cylinder inside another cylinder. In the International or World Patent WO1992007861A1 Stan mentions a rod inside a cylinder. Obviously the resonant characteristics of the two configurations are very different because surely the harmonic ringing of tube inside a tube will be different to a rod inside tube. Do we know which configuration was actually used in Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy ??

  

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There seems to be a BIG PROBLEM with the assumptions being made about the dimensions of the tube sets and everyone needs to understand this because the absolutely critical gap between cathode and anode is different in each of the following 3 information sources. The Patents are not consistent, as one Patent states the INSIDE diameter of the cathode and the other states the OUTSIDE diameter of the cathode. Also, one Patent has a solid rod anode and the other a tubular anode. A solid rod anode inside a cathode tube may have different performance characteristics from an anode tube inside a cathode tube. 

1.Don Gable’s sketches for a solid rod anode and tubular cathode:- 

a) Cathode outer tube OUTSIDE diameter MEASURED as 0.75, 
b) Cathode outer tube wall thickness MEASURED as 0.03, 
c) Cathode outer tube INSIDE diameter BY CALCULATION = 0.69 (i.e. 0.75 – (2 x 0.03)) 
d) Anode SOLID ROD diameter MEASURED as 0.5, 
e) Gap between INSIDE surface of cathode tube and the surface of the 
SOLID anode rod BY CALCULATION = 0.095 (i.e. (0.69 – 0.5)/2) 

2. World Patent WO92/07861 dated 14 May 1992 for a solid rod anode and tubular cathode:- 

a) Cathode outer tube OUTSIDE diameter NOT STATED, 
b) Cathode outer tube wall thickness NOT STATED and CANNOT BE CALCULATED, 
c) Cathode outer tube INSIDE diameter STATED in Patent as 0.75 
d) Anode SOLID ROD diameter STATED in Patent as 0.5, 
e) Gap between INSIDE surface of cathode tube and the surface of the 
SOLID anode rod NOT STATED in Patent but BY CALCULATION = 0.125 (i.e. (0.75 – 0.5) / 2) 

3. US Patent US4936961 dated 26 June 1990 for a TUBULAR anode and a tubular cathode:- 

a) Cathode outer tube OUTSIDE diameter STATED in Patent as 0.75, 
b) Cathode outer tube wall thickness NOT STATED but CALCULATED 
as 0.0625 i.e. ((outside diameter of 0.75 – (2 x 0.0625 gap stated in Patent) – 0.5 anode outside diameter)) / 2 = 0.0625 thickness of cathode tube wall, 
c) Cathode outer tube INSIDE diameter NOT STATED but CALCULATED as (0.5 anode diameter + (2x 0.0625 gap) = 0.625, 
d) Anode TUBE outside diameter STATED in Patent as 0.5, 
e) Gap between INSIDE surface of cathode tube and the OUTER surface of the 
Anode TUBE STATED in Patent as 0.0625 
f) Anode TUBE thickness not STATED and cannot be CALCULATED 
g) Anode TUBE inside diameter not STATED and cannot be CALCULATED 

So we have three different gaps between the electrodes: 
Don Gable = 0.095, 
World Patent = 0.125 and 
US Patent = 0.0625 
The World Patent was nearly 2 years after the US Patent. 
Obviously the capacitance of these cathode/anode combinations is very different. 
Which combination was actually used with the 10 VIC Circuits and the 10 bobbin/5 coil packs that pulsed the tube sets inside the resonant cavity chamber that provided the HHO for Stan Meyer’s Dune Buggy engine? 
Why did Don Gable measure different dimensions from the World Patent ? 
Which combination gives the highest HHO yield at a given voltage with minimum amps? 

  

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yes, many of stans patents differ 
the big tubes were all tubes 
the resonate cavity was called a resonate cavity and had a solid center as don shows and measured. 

the injectors had a solid center as well. and the outer was screwed into the engine, which would have made it pretty solid
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Location: albertai gave the secret away. (sorry Max) 

resonance is not in the circuit, or the electrodes,,, it's for the target molecule,, just like 'Raymond Rife' did it... equivalent to shattering glass with soundwaves. 

CAVITATION=low-pressure bubble in a liquid begins to collapse due to the higher pressure of the surrounding medium. As the bubble collapses, the pressure and temperature of the vapor within increases. The bubble eventually collapses to a minute fraction of its original size, at which point the gas within dissipates into the surrounding liquid via a rather violent mechanism which releases a significant amount of energy in the form of an acoustic shock wave and as visible light. At the point of total collapse, the temperature of the vapor within the bubble may be several thousand kelvin, and the pressure several hundred atmospheres. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation enough to fracture water ? 

wide variability is key(electrodes obviously mute link). and we(99%public) wait for Max's new variable circuit,,, WE want MAX! (to blame everything on!) ,, thanks buddy!
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Location: EarthI think the water flow rate is the key I am noT 100% sure as I am always learning and as I learn more my mind Changes. My observations as of to date tell me when I pass water trough the cell gas output is more than I have ever seen but at the end of the day just the simplest circuit and most basic set up is note worthy as we are only using tap no electrolyte and gas output is good better than the old school way of using a amp intensive process. If you want to make bubbles and resonate the cell just leave one of the bifiler coil free floating and wind your stepp up transformer on a toroid but the gas out put is not going to blow yore socks off. The key to stand work and making this work I believe for this moment anyways is meter mixing the non conbustibles and modifying the o2 and stripping electrons off of it like Stan did. The H and O in pure form are powerful so it would only take a tiny bit of gas and the mixture of O2-3 and get your self an adjustable EGR valve and use a arguing based application and hack the OBD2 or what ever you got so you can recalibrate the normal operation of the on board operating system until you tune it all in and of course I think the spin off trek EPG has to do with mega gas yield from the cell as your torroide you are winding on or c core is just grown up with the air intake technology your using to modify the O is now being put to use to build a new kind of transformer torroide with a moving magnetic core. Stan said when you hook it to your cell there's nothing you can't do. Go to very end of Switzerland talk his last words. Peace and love if I get it to work I will give it to you and blast how to vids and what ever else I can come up with to get it to as many as it can and hope it gets around fast enough. Our ducking planet is dieing and I will die if necessary to change things if I can. If anyone out there knows anything that can help us please don't not tell or try and make a paper on it. In the end it all goes back in the box. Peace sorry for talking so much just how I see it at this present moment
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Location: EarthMan doc I just got done learning all about cavitation from the link l guess my observations were correct. Thanks so much brother
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Location: EarthMan doc I just got done learning all about cavitation from the link and your post went right over my head but I got it now but had no idea when I posted the above post. Crazy yea l guess my observations were correct. Thanks so much brother
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i gave the secret away. (sorry Max) 

resonance is not in the circuit, or the electrodes,,, it's for the target molecule,, just like 'Raymond Rife' did it... equivalent to shattering glass with soundwaves. 

CAVITATION=low-pressure bubble in a liquid begins to collapse due to the higher pressure of the surrounding medium. As the bubble collapses, the pressure and temperature of the vapor within increases. The bubble eventually collapses to a minute fraction of its original size, at which point the gas within dissipates into the surrounding liquid via a rather violent mechanism which releases a significant amount of energy in the form of an acoustic shock wave and as visible light. At the point of total collapse, the temperature of the vapor within the bubble may be several thousand kelvin, and the pressure several hundred atmospheres. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation enough to fracture water ? 

wide variability is key(electrodes obviously mute link). and we(99%public) wait for Max's new variable circuit,,, WE want MAX! (to blame everything on!) ,, thanks buddy!


he he 
yea, on the positive side is electrical resonance. in the tube set is a special resonance. 
i am writing a theses for peer review and for teslatec, coming up soon. 
calling the theses..... meyers, hidden in plain site 

not cavitation in the cell thou, but cavitation is awesome stuff..........and the pistol shrimp is really awesome
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Max, 

Here is an idea for your 3D printer. You could print each tube cell set in the shape of a trapezium. Each trapezium 
could lock to another and eventually they would form a circle of 10 or is it 11 "slices". Each slice could have a vertical 
round key that would lock into a vertical round recess of the next "slice" and together they would all lock and form the resonant cavity 
Would this be a cheap way of making resonant cavities? You would only ever need to print the "slices". 

What do you think? 

Paul.

  

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yea 
i already had it in my brain, when i drew the double cavity. it just never come out yet. 

yes a 2 set that connects to the next set. then you print each set as you have time. 

you could draw it up buddy, put your name on it. its a great idea. 

it would be a good way for you to learn blender
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Hi Max, 

I managed to download blender....I'll try to see if I can learn how to use it! 


I have been thinking a bit more about the resonant cavity; 

Firstly, I just want ask about the 11 tube sets in the resonant cavity: on one of your videos I noticed that when you pulsed one set of tubes the next one to it also bubbled slightly, even though you were not pulsing it directly. Do you think that with 11 sets arranged in a ring when they are pulsed they all affect each other in addition to the direct pulsing that each is receiving and that this helps the whole group of tube sets to resonate even more? 

Secondly, do you think the reason that Stan Meyer had to operate 11 separate vic circuits and coil packs was because each tube set has a slightly different resonance characteristic? Or do you think it would be possible to get the same results by using just one VIC and one coil pack to pulse all 11 tube sets - it is going to take a lot of work to build 11 vics and wind 11 5-coil packs!! 

Thank, 

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Sorry Max, 

My mistake, I meant 10 tube sets in my last posting. 

Thanks, 

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yes, each tube set, the flux effects the next. evidence shows stan used 10 wired in series. and evidence shows the vics were all wired to that. 

yes it takes a while. i have the 11 tube set made. i have the 11 core sets and i have the 11 bobbin sets made. 

imagine now..........all the research i have done to figure things out......... 

imagine now, why it takes a while to do what i am doing. 

everyone has good info now.
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Thanks Max, 

Are you going to try and drive all your coil packs somehow with just one VIC circuit board do you think we still need to follow what Stan did and use a separate VIC board for each tube in the resonant cavity - it's just that it would would be great if I did not have to buy and solder up 10 VIC boards (not that I would not be prepared to if that is the only way)? 

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the idea has been to build the entire buggy. the problem has been that there are things to figure out. this is what most people do not understand. just replicating something is great............ 

but gee wait..............how does it work? how come there is no bubbles? 

LOL 

i have had to figure out much. then i post much, and tell everyone................ but most call me a bad guy for not having it done............LOL 

i can acureatly test and discover only so much, at a given amount of time. 

to answer your question, yes i plan to make 10 VICs and 10 circuits. the idea has always been to share what i found, as i found it. 

the problem is..............i get tired of so many people stabbing me in the back and telling everyone what a fucker i am. so i said........fuck everyone. if people want help, they can ask me here. then i will help those who are doing the work.
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i do not believe stan would have made something that did not need made. 

i can also tell you that there are fucktards that are claiming that they have it working, and they do not. 

funny thing is......... those fucktards thought i told them everything..........then they stabed me in the back and called me names and started there own club. LOL 

i know many a fuck tards. LOL. they all want to come here to this forum and talk shit about me. piss on them all. 

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