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Voltanator 
Adding a second a deregulated alternator
some with special choke winds in side on stator
Also several version  of these, some include a rotary vic Large case - Straight ear
A 7705 Ford 1 G Series ER/EF 100 Amp to 150 Amp 
114mm ID x 155 MTG OF 27-202 Stator 
Ford E9DZ-10304-A,
F0HZ-10304-A, GY-1302-B, GY-1345-A

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Alternator PCB Versions
Yes there is more than 1 version of Alternator PCB
We have several ready and posting them as ready Check Circuit  order pages, to collect and preserve your copy.

Stans Alternator Patents
o.5amps and 5 volts are on the rotor of his alternator
Alternator Patent 1 1986  Patent # 4613779 
Alternator Patent 2 1989  Patent # 4798661 See  Page 7 
memo wfc 427.pdf 
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IN the Video below Electro Shows the  board making step charge on the 9 phases later he changed board slightly and joined the phases together better. Thanks to the guys at the H cat forum, in particular Neal and Justin for their Kind donation.... Notice with the alternator that it has a constant dc input to the alt. but the alt has a pulsed output...all 9 phases are connected.

Ford 1G Alternator Rectifier Terminal Post mounts 90 Degree

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6.3mm Insert 250 L Male tab PCB Terminals 90 Degree Angle 100PCS

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Alternator Insulator Kit Fits Ford 1G small case Round and Square Back

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Red & Black Pair of Flexible Battery/Starter Terminal Insulator Boots 4/0 Wire https://ebay.to/3ubH0lR

Alternator Battery Positive Output Stud Fits Delco Remy Series 27SI Chevy GMC ++

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Seller: pickournos ✉️ (11,757) 99.9%, Location: Granville, Illinois, Ships to: Worldwide, Item: 373074661511Alternator Battery Positive Output Stud Fits Delco Remy Series 27SI Chevy GMC ++. A New Battery Positive Stud for Delco 27SI Alternators. Stud Length:31.3mm / 1.232inStud Size & Pitch:12-24Notes: External Terminal Thread Size is 12-24 and 10.3mmKit Includes 1 Stud, 2 Insulators, 2 Nuts Application: Delco 27SI Type 100 & 200 Series Alternators Reference Numbers: Delco 1846901 We are not experts. We attempt to describe each component thoroughly. 

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note direction marking 

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New Rectifier, Compatible with 6 Diodes, Ford/GY1346,D4VY10346A,E2HZ10304B,GY1302A

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Making good Connections with Fuse able links 

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Notice in the table above that there is always a four number size difference between the Fusible Link wire gauge size, and the size of wire going out to the rest of the circuit.

 (And with wire gauge sizes, the larger number is for a smaller diameter–as with shotgun barrels, the 20 gauge bore diameter is smaller than the 12 gauge bore diameter.)

The four number differences in gauge size will create the correctly calibrated bottleneck for the Fusible Link to function.  Normal amounts of current flow through the Fusible Link do not generate enough heat to warm it up, and normal amount of current flow does not result with significant voltage drop.  But in the event of a “full-overload” (“short-to-ground”)

problem, excessive current flow through the Fusible Link (bottle-neck effect) will overheat the Fusible Link and burn it out.

 

 The protected circuit will be automatically disconnected from power.

Installation and function of a Fusible Link is similar to the “cartridge type,” in-line fuse.  

But the Fusible Link does not deteriorate or have meltdown problems with constant use in heavy-duty systems, as the cartridge type fuse is famous for.

 (Chevy began installing Fusible Link wires in the main-power circuits with ’66 models, and of those old cars that are still in use, most of the original Fusible Link wires are still in place.  If a Fusible Link burned out then it saved the car!)

Examples of circuits where the Fusible Link wire will be the most reliable short-circuit protection are; *the main power wire to the dash area, *the alternator-to-Cell Switch “WFC wire,” *power-up wire to systems where the amount of power flow is a large amount for long periods of time.

NOTES about Fusible Links  Only a serious short will cause a Fusible Link to burn–it disconnects a circuit from power just before the rest of the wiring in a circuit would be damaged.

 Momentary overloads will not burn out a Fusible Link–such as arcing a wrench between ground and an exposed terminal.

The insulation of the Fusible Link wire is soft and non-flammable, sometimes the conductor strands within will burn without noticeable damage to the insulation.

 

 A good test is to try stretching it.  If it stretches like a rubber band then the wire within has burned out.

Keep them out of the cockpit!  (When Fusible Links burn they often emit sparks and smoke.)

When installing the Fusible Links, the wire terminals should be crimped, then soldered, and then insulated with shrinkable tubing.  (An on-board spare may be installed too.) 

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Be careful on part numbers and holes sizes

For future orders, pls change your design according to datasheet of MUR1560G. :D

 find pictures attached ,D1 part number # he holes pitch 4.6 mm is small than max lead pin pitch 5.08 mm. Besides, the hole diameter 0.9 mm is smaller than  1.15 mm ( √0.842+0.792 )
Therefore ,the plastic parts of component can not plastered onto board surface as picture show.

Stanley A Meyer Had
Several Alternator Designs
From
1) Stock
2) Rewound with thinner wire
3) Rewound with 6 Poles
4) Rewound with stainless coated high resistant wire
5) Rewound with Choks inside
6) Custom Stators/ 8 10 13 stator poles
 
Those Skilled in the art have a Major advantage.,

The Higher number of Phases from Stator winding Results in  pulses being closer together,
 
This means some cancellation in there aid our goals of high volt pulses low amps ,
if the poles on rotor are closer together that would be good
to work in combination with phases on stator

Resulting in more efficiency and less high heat kw and less hp needed.
We want thiner AWG copper wire and or flat wire. for high volt less amps
we waste less hp per kw of energy produced .

Our Amp Range is 4 amp to 10 amp under 20 amp max.
voltage 100 to 600 or 600 + max we can get out .
rpm is 500 to 3500 ceiling could be 5000 rpm. 

Pulley Ratio
If we Use Small Pulley Ratio to spin faster and  maximise idle out put
we may spin alteernator too fast if at redline depeending on engine it is attached too
and could damage a rewired alternator
so carefully consider the pulley ratio vs voltage at different speeds
 careful to match your individual engine rev ranges.
higher rpm please  use stock or  large ratios so no over speed of alternator
some advanced lectronic can control the voltage , but rpm is still a factor.

Dan 

Note Special about builder comment 

 . Stan has 9 field stator windings in his alt.

right now most alternators  have 6 ,  so need to need another 3

tthis comment came from electro.

Stanley Meyer   notes Note From Other Forum for Benefit of builders,

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Are they for the Ford alternator. Im using the 27si delco units. They are easier to work with. Plus they are eight pole design. Which really woke the fuel cell up. The Ford rotor is easier to take apart and rewind if needed than the delco units. I did rewind a few 27si stators to get the voltage up. I think Im at around 200 volts now at .12 amps. It works pretty good if connected in series. Have one stator rewound that is 1 slot off to the side of the conventional winding from factory. Havent tried it yet, to see how it reacts to the cell. Most of my time has been spent on the motor-generator units. Both inside one case.

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RELATION OF ELECTRICAL POWER AND VEHICLES

 

Power "HHO" device to a vehicle is directly proportional to power the alternator on a given vehicle. If the alternator is 100A and the output voltage of 14.1 V we have the alternator with a power of 1.41 KW

 

6 to 7 volts and 2 amps is applied to the alternator rotor, which produces a magnetic field, which puts a load on the engine.   This means the HP load is power used to generate that hho plus that 7v 2 amp This is how the meyer alternator works.

 

.Each alternator has an upper threshold at which forces can operate continuously. The average power is 60% of the total power of the alternator (the large alternators go up to 85% of total capacity). So we can take a useful power from the vehicle only if the sum of all electrical equipment on the vehicle, working at the same time, we add to our strength, "HHO" cell and a result can not exceed the lower number of signs in the vehicle alternators power expressed in amperes.This data can include measured by vehicle and include all electrical devices on the vehicle that would otherwise normally work together. Then turn on the HS-VG pulse modulator and gradually turning up the power cell.

 

During this time, constantly measures the voltage of the vehicle. If the vehicle is at 12V, that is when you turn on 14V, the upper limit of power that the alternator can produce, we have at the moment when the voltage from 14.1 V power amplification in the cell drops to 12.5 V. Or the vehicle at the upper limit of 24V power that the alternator can produce we have at the moment when the voltage drops from 28V to 25V. This test gives reliable data on the ultimate capabilities of the vehicle alternators.Cross section that HS-VG powered electricity from the vehicle should be at 10mm2 every two cells in the system. Voltage of 14V with two cells connected in parallel section = 10mm2 copper wire. Voltage of 28V in series with two related CELLS = 10mm2 cross section copper conductor. Increasing the number of cells required to increase the conductor in the above relation.For an average 20% fuel savings for a period of one hour of operation, per 1000 cm3 displacement, requires that the device produces 30 to 60 gallons of gas per hour or 0.5 to 1 liter per minute.

 

The ratio of invested power, electricity from the vehicle, in the process of electrolysis of water in the device HS-VG and gas obtained during one hour of work, is that it takes up to 200W 240W to make electricity from the vehicle, depending on the conditions of devices, to get 60 gallons of "HHO" gas. Advances We can add power booster which are basically capacitor banks and we can ad pwm and voltage intensifiers -Transformers configurs on providing high voltage and low amps to cell to greaty improve gas production and reduce loads on alternator's'. Whilst improving power and reducing loads on engines.

 

Stanley Meyers Alternator and Pulsing by 10xa 

 

Meyer used a Ford diesel alternator large core and large case 36 wells and rotor is 6 magnetic poles each side, 6 N 6 S.

 

 

There is Now more understanding of this now , not only did this control amps it was a Tesla Theory,

The Rediant amps and Magnetic static Frequency was used,

 

This is Shown by the Tesla QEG and the Gerard Morin Pages and Videos Learn it !

 

Now we can See yet again Stan Was Way ahead in his thinking he was thinking Frequency, voltage and duty modulations

not amps as he took them out of the system. AKA a Mechanical Modulator

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lets Compare FORDs Original Drawing to Stan's to take away mystery.

Fords

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1G the Large Version long ear on right 

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8XA/9XB

Reason is we are providing a pulse 5 volt to the stator

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Stan Added
Bifilar Chokes
 

9XG Style

Reason is we have  2 sets of 3 bifilar chokes on a spiral wind. Note Coil winding direction.

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9 Coils 

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9XG Style

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9XG Style

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it's a little different with spiral coils, normal style coils are a lot easier to wind but because these go all the way around the stator cavity it makes it nearly impossible to get tight winds without using a method like this..

 

The real benefit comes when winding the second and third phase, because the dowels keep the previous phase windings from impeding the space required for the next phase winding. Hard to explain but easy to see when you wind the next phase..

.I used .71mm wire and 3-4 windings per coil. wood dowels. 3/16 fit mine use non-solderable high temperature enameled wire, grade 2 (or 3) insulation. Standard solderable insulation ain't robust enough.

I have 3 different ones, each with a different choke/field coil combination I went to the wire wholesalers and got the proper plastic insulation and strips. They were pretty cheap. Believe it or not, the most expensive by far was the string to tie it all together when finished. That cost more than all the rest combined.

the dowels work good, you wind the one phase, then the next phase. yes the cardboard is soft, but the dowels allow for an accurate wind, so even my big hands did a good job. you need to make a shuttle. its like a Y on both ends, about 6 inches long and 1 inch wide. just hacksaw some notches in each end. i just 3d printed mine. you want the stl files, for the shuttle? i can load them on my thingy-verse. then you wind the wire on the shuttle, then the shuttle passes through the stator hole and you don't skin the wire. then what i did was zip tie the wires at the loops. the zip tie knuckle goes to the outside and the rotor wont catch it. once everything clears, in the housing and the rotor, i just fiberglass resin  the wire into the stator.

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  • Ford Large Case Alternator 

  • Large case - Straight ear

  • A 7705 Ford 1 G Series ER/EF 100 Amp to 150 Amp 

  • 114mm ID x 155 MTG OF 27-202 Stator 

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The Parts Which have some Relevance

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The Parts Which have some Relevance

  • Repair kit with illustrated instructions in Spanish, English and French for most Ford 1G Series 70-100A ER/EF, 1G Series Blue Back Truck 75-90A ER/EF Alternators in Ford (1970-1992) ** Lincoln (1972-1985) ** Mercury (1972-1991) Lesters no. 7072-9, 7074-9, 7705-12

  • Alternator Repair Kit FDA-02

  • Brand

  • Victory Lap

  • Manufacturer

  • CPI Parts Division

  • Manufacturer Part Number

  • FDA-02

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The Parts Which have some Relevance

  • NOS OEM 1969-82 Chevrolet Buick Oldsmobile Pontiac Cadillac Alternator Terminal I show this one until i find ford part number Terminal is similar to fit the Meyer PCB 

  • search Ford 1G Series 70-100A alternator terminal post

Electro's experiment where he try's to make the secondaries act as primaries for the transformer inside the alternator. I think this is where the uni pulsing core for the VIC is..

 

Have read that water can exist as H30, H50, even H70. If the charge state of the elements are made stronger or weaker it follows that the bonds could increase or decrease number.

 

Single diode electrolysis suggests this is true. If only one gas is coming off a single cell then the concentration of the other gas must increase, and the atomic mass of the new compound species must increase. also.. not single diode ..has diode on negative and separate diode on positive for all  phases.

How to get matching opposing positive and negative pulse from alternator like stan did?

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from a social post by ed

I know use the Tesla bifilar coil wrap on the primary myself as that cross wrap is on the hard side to do by hand, but I have done it and tested it and it works well on increasing voltage over the turn count ratios calculated voltage. But I found the meaning of the word in an unrelated patent about wrapping some electrical tape.

The good thing is now we all know what the word means.

the wire in the actually primary doesn't have those spaces between the bifilar wire as that was drawn that way for ease of teaching just how it was wrapped, okay? They are wrapped side by side with little to no air space gaps between the wires. Alternator and the injector bobbins round done this on primary 

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Example of Winding  Alternator jig

The Windings can be 18 awg  and up to 10 winds normally we use thinneer wire for high voltage loww amps and  wire in  bifilar coils as Meyer states.

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Remember can be also be
Spiral /Trifilar or 1 layer normal and than 2 bifilar . 

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12 Trifilar loops  3 phase 36 slots on ford 1G

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Each phase is wired to a bord which allows you to individually access each wire. This makes for easy/quick  connections.

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Now we know this pic is wrong it is 3 wires x 3 x 3 turn wire 9 = 27 wires per loop

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Don't know the recommended size of the wire.. many use 18 awg

.I used .75mm on the wound stator shown and the other stator is .82mm . The .75 has 3 turns per coil, but I think i should have wound 4..room enough if you wind them neat it does look like I got a lot of stators,but

 

I use this one for training or experimenting with winding methods...The reason is , if you continually rewind the stators, they start to separate the laminations of the core...so I do all my practice on this.

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very nice windings, how many winds per 1 coil of 1 phase?thanks, but how many trifiliar winds per coil/phase?

so 3winds with 3wires wound together per single coil of a single phase?

3....3 coils , 3 phase, 3 wires/coils per phase...

see \video "spiral coil how to for the alternator" this shows the coils. And how to wind different types..

 

This stator has 3 coils per phase...spiral coils...2 different types.

 

I took the stator to a motor rewinding workshop and the guy showed me how to wind all different types of coils and where to get materials from... I paid him for his trouble, and now I rewind my own...This was money well spent..depends on wire diameter... now I use smaller dia. wire but more turns

The coils on the steel core are spirally wound. Tesla pancake bifilar are suppose to have capacitance and 2 of these are bifilar wound. All 3 coils on the air core are bifilar.I don't know, but the coil with no inductor at all gave a much bigger signal.

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Insulation Wraps and Slot Guide protectors

An alternator specification calls for Class F insulation with Temp rise to Class B.  The ambient Temp max is indicated as 54 Deg C.Is it not enough if we specify the Insulation Class alone.

What is the significance of specifying this detail "Temperature Rise"?

Stans Alternator Runs Cold !!!

But we explain any ways for you to build it well.

The standards specify an ambient of 40 deg C for electrical machines. For over 40 deg C, there is a derating factor. Refer to IEC 60034 or equivalent. A class B rise means a maximum winding temperature of 120 deg C, which is 80 deg C rise over an ambient of 40 deg C.  If the ambient is over 40 deg C, better to specify a class H (180 deg C) winding,

The price difference between F and H should not be much and class H would give you an additional reliability that is so needed in an emergency service.

Of course, it is a MV set (Over 600 V), then you would get only class F machine.

Parts 

  • Slot Insulators 

  • Insulator Ribbon twine cord 2mm to 4mm width

  • insulator ribbon  1 inch wide 

  • Below you can see pic with insulation on coils

From the alternator

Each phase is wired to a bord which allows you to individually access each wire. This makes for easy/quick  connections.

IN

Out

coils with capacitance ? or just a faulty power supply?

The coils on the steel core are spirally wound. Tesla pancake bifilars are suppose to have capacitance and 2 of these are bifilar wound. All 3 coils on the air core are bifilar.

Between turn and turn of coil is formed a capacitor. These capabilities are added and give an overall capacity, then a coil having an inductance and a capacity (parasitic capacity but one) then a given coil also has a resonance frequency without adding any capacitor or cell.

I don't know, but the coil with no inductor at all gave a much bigger signal.

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Unipolar Crossover Pulse-Train Winding Description

Figure out how many turns you can fit in the stator with your chosen gauge of wire, divide this by 6.
Wind each phase Trifilar, three wires wrapped simultaneously, marking each end of your wires.
You will have 18 "ends" to connect, so make sure you label them damn good.


Insert each phase like "normal", with proper winding direction and "additive" magnetic field orientation.


When the phase is laid in the stator it will make a complete circle, so the start and end of the wires will meet.
Starting from "Negative"
Connect "Negative" to "Bottom Choke Start" for each phase.
Connect "Bottom Choke End" to "Secondary Start" for each phase....

*Possibly* connect "Isolated Ground" here.
Connect "Secondary End" to "Blocking Diode Anode" for each phase.
Connect "Blocking Diode Cathode" to "Top Choke Start" for each phase.
Connect "Top Choke End" to "Isolation Diode Anode" for each phase.
Connect "Isolation Diode Cathode" to "Positive" for each phase.

That should be better than a picture anyway.All you do is input 0-12 volts DC into the field windings, and power it with a constant speed motor. That is why it is called the "Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator

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Here we attempt to show want electro is doing in this version so you can replicate it.

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Note on the Spiral Trifilar Winding

One primary winding with choke coils on each end.

I was thinking may be I can get the steps with the other phases.

.It makes the same voltage with no load, maybe slightly more.

this one is all clockwise direction,

but a combination of different coils i.e.

there are 4 different ways to wind spiral coils in the same direction.

2 volts dc 0.6 amps into stator to cell 0.7 amps 4 volts 331 hz 38.5 duty cycle is altered by speed of dc motor. Volts are DC rectified on the pcb in alternator only using 3 phase out of the 9 . 

Normally this would produce 3-phase AC, however
Diodes do not conduct "backwards"
Thus circuit is "disconnected" or "off" during negative portion of the cycle,
The alternating magnetic field from the rotor only creates a voltage in the stator when the diodes conduct forwards
Therefore this is always unipolar   (With reference to my above drawing and the directions indicated therein)

This is an alternator, but it doesn't create an output ANYTHING like an alternator.

Compare:
1. A high voltage stator wound like  normal with 300 turns per loop, you would create the given voltage due to the turns.

vs
2. A high voltage stator wound trifilar with 100 turns per loop (x3 = 300), and connected in series.

Each has the same amount of wire, each has the same amount of turns in total.
But the 2. has 42 loops per phase at 100 turns, rather than 14 loops at 300 turns.
The electrons in 2. will travel around the stator core 3 times before exiting, rather than once.

Stator 1. would produce normal high voltage 3 phase ac with proportionally reduced amps.
Now consider the blocking diodes in 2. and look at the back emf.

Every time the magnetic field of the rotor switches to induce a negative voltage, the diodes switch off, and the magnetic field of the stator collapses.

The "Top Choke" bemf with initially go backwards against the diode, but then be forced in the opposite direction, towards V+ or clockwise.

Meanwhile the "Secondary" and the "Bottom Choke" bemf will travel counter clockwise, and since they are trifilar wound, this happens right next to each other, and it happens 3 times around the stator core.

Also consider, during this bemf collapse, the rotors magnetic field is 'trying' to induce a negative voltage in the stator, or counter clockwise, so the rotor is working with the bottom choke and the secondary, and working against the top choke.

surely a cluster f**k of magnetic fields going on, surely it restricts the amps, causes electron bounce, and allows voltage to take over.

I didn't even mention the other two phases, but lets consider them now.

every 60 degrees you have the next phase, so you have the emf and bemf cycle constantly going on and overlapping and creating mutual induction from one phase to the next due to proximity and one damn confused stator core.

this means that at one particular time you have one phase conducting, and two phases making bemf, and then at another particular time you have 2 phases conducting and 1 phase making bemf, and at any other time you have some combination of the cycle, all overlapping.

After considering this design, I can somewhat conclude that you will be able to pull some unipolar voltage out of it, but pulling current out of it would be like trying to get your lawn chair back from a hurricane. Interesting theory!


Maybe the way to get the current out of the alternator, We can "Bi-, Tri-filar wind the coils (L2,L5,L8)" this lowers the Impedance of the coils,

 

The coils are in series.
I have no idea if all the coils (L1..L9) must be wound that way. It makes sense that all the coils must be in the same field in the stator, but the coils must match the load @rpms. Looks difficult to make this kind of coil configuration.

I'm still using the alternator in the 'old' configuration. When my 'old' setup is running again......, I could look into this too.

Pulse and gate can be applied.

"Pulsating (switch off/on)
Rotating magnetic field (adjusting magnetic field strength to allow voltage potential to be developed across pickup windings 'secondary' while current leakage is held to a minimum value)"

 

Maybe the way to get the current out of the alternator,
- We don't want current out of the alternator? we want it to act as an amp restrictor, and just get the voltage out

We can "Bi-, Tri-filar wind the coils (L2,L5,L8)" this lowers the Impedance of the coils,


-I thought of that, following my example of 42 loops at 100 turns, you could do six-filar, and then have 84 loops at 50 turns, but the reason why i am happy with 42 loops is because that is how many there are in the famous VIC Coil... 14 grooves * 3 coils = 42 loops! It's the same!

I hope you try this stator circuit, I think it makes sense and fits with the clues, so I see value in building it.

In your drawing there, showing pulsing the rotor. Would you be so kind as to provide an explanation to why this is useful, because it doesn't make sense to me. It might be a brilliant idea, but with my understanding, I just don't get it.


Here is why:
The rotor is designed to run on straight DC, the output of the stator is exactly proportional to the strength of the magnetic field in the rotor, and the strength of the rotor is exactly proportional to the current flowing in the rotor, pulsing the rotor will reduce the current which reduces magnetic field strength which reduces the output of the stator.

 

Pulsing the rotor does not control the output frequency of the alternator, the output frequency of the alternator is controlled by the rpms, so if you want to adjust frequency you have to adjust the driving speed.

 

The alternator is not like an AC transformer... 60 Hz in = 60Hz out, its a DC to 3pAC rotary transformer...  so you see the alternator having all winds contained within the alternator..   would it be possible to use a finer wire for the chokes in a tri filar configuration? also what about the multi spool vic..

 

was it designed to be yet another way for obtaining restricted amps but from the exterior of the alternator?   stans pcb seems to indicate that he didnt have problems with heating of his stator windings since it seems to block the circulation within the alternator.

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this is a perspective i came up a while back ago  of how the rotary vic was wired for each phase... 0-20 khz 50 percent duty pulse on primary.. i see the alternator having a center tap for each phase.. the center tap being tapped into the negative stainless choke in the multi spool bobbin.. 

 

see the copper wind being only one hooked to the stator output.. the stator neutral ground going straight to ground... i see the outer copper choke constantly being hit and removing electrons to the point of being in a high positive vacuum charge around 2 stainless chokes..

 

i see the positive stainless being connected the primary side and is feeling the pulses primary is receiving. maybe causing some type of robber band effect on the amplitude being broadcasted by the positive stainless into resonant cavity... 

 

ignore the copper negative choke i have drawn in the pic i do not think its needed.. 

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Used this 3 diode Board in above video

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meyer alternator internal vic transformer experiment.

latest experiment where I try to make the secondaries act as primaries for the transformer inside the alternator. I think this is where the uni pulsing core for the VIC is..

It certainly is an interesting result with different appearance of the gas. Begs the question...what is happening at the molecular level? How can electrolysis make different gasses with the same starting molecule? Where does the other element go if it is making more of one and not the other? Seems like our fundamental understanding of water chemistry is wrong if this can happen at all. Have read that water can exist as H30, H50, even H70.

 

If the charge state of the elements are made stronger or weaker it follows that the bonds could increase or decrease number. Single diode electrolysis suggests this is true. If only one gas is coming off a single cell then the concentration of the other gas must increase, and the atomic mass of the new compound species must increase.

the same effect happens when I use my dc power supply...it's an old school type..bwd 246A ..newer power supplies from china don't seem to do this...my old one didn't .

also..not single diode ..has diode on negative and separate diode on positive for all  phases.

orry i was a bit vague there...i was referring to using a diode in the water with an RF field around the cell. Only one electrode in there and puts gas out. Michael Meadows did a video

"free ac hho and power regeneration"

This is using a similar principal but I am doing it all on the same core . The weird thing is the voltage is ac, just like Mr Meadows,it's getting gas with ac.

i got gas from AC before as well using the secondary output from a MOT. In your case there is a portion of DC in the AC wave...but i don't think that can be held responsible for all whats going on. I think voltage stretching the water molecule is more to blame.

why do you think the AC goes through the diodes..??

in your setup? One could be broken. There is always ripple on after a diode if it isn't smoothed by caps. You got a diode that is not the same as well. If it is different rating it can behave like a transistor if in series with another diode.Like valves of different size or spring tension in a pulsing pressurised liquid system.One will open when it shouldn't if the flow us pulling a low pressure past it. Mass and motion. Thats all i can come up with bro

I don't know...checked all diodes..OK..also, it's only an alternator with 4 v going in at about 2500 revs...the output on the scope is only 80v ..and it is ac everywhere..before the diodes, after the diodes, and on any part of the circuit..anywhere you touch the scope it's ac.  Also, with the same board but different wiring combinations, you get DC. Maybe the positive charge provided by the 2 phases keeps the diode open and that lets the Ac from the transformer through..??. but then again. I don't know shit..just a beginner

 

only logical explanation is the diode being held open. I suppose you could spin it around and see how it affects the waveform. Or take it out altogether and see if you get the same result. I reckon that one odd diode is the culprit. Maybe poke around with a resistor while it is running to see if it will change state.

 

just noticed that when I disconnect the cell, either the pos. or neg. I get DC at the board...neg. on negative side and pos . on the other. As soon as the other side of the cell is connected the wave goes to AC.

what the? try a dummy load instead of the cell. The cell is a leaky capacitor...more or less leaky depending on your electrolyte levels. Any electrolyte in the water? I haven't played hydroxy for quite a while now but i stopped using any electrolytes because it is the realm of Faraday electrolysis.

I can just short the whole thing out...no cell just straight short..and it goes to AC waveform..no big sparks, wires do get hot after a while but nowhere near as quick as normal when it is shorted out...And I'm using distilled water

certainly some weird shit going on mate. Want to do your head in even more? Stick a zinc electrode over the top of the cells in the gas bubbles and extract some free electrons. I saw a crazy result i have never been able to replicate again....

After long searches i found that ford motorcraft 1g alt matches exactly with Stans! Max about windings , MAx Said he Wound as the original but with thinner wire and more wire.  Stan looks to be outputting 2lpm when the tube set is sitting on the table. when running the buggy, it has to be more then 2lpm.

 

Here is a very good pdf about the alternator, and the winding configurations are there as well as lots of info !!

http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/38166/InTech-Power_electronic_solutions_to_improve_the_performance_of_lundell_automotive_alternators.pdf

 

http://www.bavaria-direct.co.za/models/images/CD_Star_diagram.gif

wye is the common gm wind that I use 

WYE gives you more voltage

http://www.bavaria-direct.co.za/models/motor_info.htm

 

Here is a cool link with pictures, Take a peek at this one.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Rewind-an-Alternator/

 

Beaware of skinning a few wires and created a short circuit with no load you should measure the voltage as the same across 3 phases. if not, its shorted,

 

You have 3 coils of wire per phase, put the first phase coils 120 degrees apart, then the same for the next 2 phases. Draw a circle on a peice of paper, at 3 equally spaced points that is 120 degrees, then to the right start your second phase with 3 coils , then the third phase next.....VOILA... 3 phases 120 degrees apart....

 

We can get on the alternator 500-600 volt out,else what I see power of alternator can be up to 2000 watt-not by formula voltage times amperage but because of the 14 magnetic pole alternator--alternator seems like a much better option-compared with 50 60 hertz network network does not have ability to deliver electricity as fast as the alternator. speed of charging WFC may be key.

 

thinner wire makes a higher voltage with less amperage........Ohms Law

 

Meyer is rewound stator with a thin wire --rotor not rewrapped If you use a thick wire That's why you do not get enough electricity so If you want higher electricity must be thin wire It is a rotary transformer, some math should be able to help .

 

most alternators are listed to the amps and are 12 volts. that is your wattage. convert it to 24 volts, and devide the amps in half, the wattage is still the same. lenz s law of magnetic flux, inducing voltage. the laws of physics can not be ignored. smaller wire will pass smaller amperage  wind by hand, first phase. then second phase , then 3rd phase......If you take one apart you will see just how the windings are oriented... Stock alternators are wound cw, ccw, one coil after the other .

 

http://www.mtmscientific.com/rewind.html

 

http://www.climtechsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/AlternatorWindingv420.pdf

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Factory wind is 3 phase,

all you have to do is follow what was there, to get 3 phases

, is the fase relationship of the rotor with the stator,

 

the the posistion of the wires in the stator electric motor is the same as an alternator.

360 degrees in one rotation. 3 phase, then each phase is 120 degrees its best if you find another alternator, and be  carefull taking it apart,  take it apart one turn at a time and take notes

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This was the wiring schematic for the first run it shows a common wye wound alternator with a full phase rectifier set up, no regulator the field or the rotor are triggered by a variac 5 volts and 2 amps meyer said. it is pretty basic really same set up as in my vids above,

 

i used a GM 70 amp alternator. 14 volt and 70 amps........980 watts at @ 12 volts normal operation this means you have 980 watts to play with at any given time, normal running without over heating is half that 490 watts

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Differ slightly as they are designed to lower the open sparking to reduce changes of explosions and fire on board. they also are more water resistant. Some Marine Alternators are extremly high amp. Most out board are 30 - 60 amp with 60 amp being the minimum recommened to use for Hydrogen on demand hho systems. 

 

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Stanley Meyer's 8XA Input is not connected to the Power Source Network (110V/60Hz)!

http://www.globalkast.com/images/stan... 8XA is Powered from a Rotary-pulce generator -

 

Car Alternator's Output. http://www.globalkast.com/images/stan...

http://www.globalkast.com/images/stan...

This generator produce High Frequency Sinusoidal signal about 1 kHz.

Car Alternator's rotor is Powered from 5 Volts, 120 Hz Unipolar, Half-Sinusoidal signal.

This two devices work both! http://www.globalkast.com/images/stan...

 

Yes, if 8XA circuit is connected to the Power sourse 110V/60Hz (or 220V/50Hz) HHO is producing,

but this is a usual electrolise.

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Stanley Meyer`s RESONANCE Impedence Matching Ciruit A Voltage Doubler with Inductors. H Bridge   21 Mar 2020

 

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Circuit Diagram

 

Jean-Louis Naudin (2008 year) attempt to replicate

Charge/Discharge signal, using "adhesive plastic sheet so has to get a fully insulated cathod":

Screen Shot         TEST CELL LINK

 

There are errors in the Stephen Meyer`s circuit diagram!

Here is the right circuit: 

Stephen Meyer vs. Stanley Meyer - differences https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IsnM...

 

Stephen Meyer`s Patent US 2005/0246059 A1: https://patents.google.com/patent/US2...

 

Andrija Puharich`s Patent US4394230A: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4...

 

Stanley Meyer's US4936961A: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4...

Stanley Meyer's WO 92/07861: http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/wo...

 

Drawing FIG. 5 shows the signals applied to each of the arrays 132

FIG. 3 installed in hydroxyl cell 120 emitted from each of the impedance matching circuits 102

 

FIG. 4 mounted on PC cards 1-6. These sets of signals

 

FIG. 5 with their offsetting phase relationship, frequencies and amplitudes are the driving forces producing the hydroxyl gases in cell 120

 

FIG. 3. Drawing

 

FIG. 6 shows the high frequency ringing signal located between test points T1 and T2 in impedance matching circuit 102 drawing

 

FIG. 4. It is this ringing that also enhances the production of the hydroxyl gases in cell 120

 

FIG. 3. The circuits 102

FIG. 4 convert the AC signal from each phase of 110 into a modulated signal as depicted by

 

FIG. 5. Note the dc bias voltage +,− on either side of the center electrical reference point OV in FIG. 5. It is this bias voltage being modulated by multi polarity differential signals from 102

 

FIG. 4 that contributes to the wave-guide action of arrays 132. Also, the frequency of FIG. 5 is adjusted to match the electrical wave-length of the arrays 132

 

FIG. 3 and the impedance of water bath 133.

 

FIG. 6 shows the high-frequency ringing signals that contribute to the operation of the hydroxyl production. Just as a tuning fork rings when struck by a hammer, so does the wave-guide elements in arrays 132 immersed into the hydroxyl generating liquid 133

 

then struck by the electrical signals FIG. 5,6 from impedance matching circuits 102 depicted in FIG. 4.

The result of this is just like the operation of a radio transmitter matching its signal to the air via the antenna impedance. Refer to FIG. 3 showing the relationship of this configuration to arrays 132, water bath 133 and Signals FIG. 5,6.

Modifiying stator is a option we have new materials and can use flat wire  so we can keep that in mind, from the Phots we can tell Stan did not modify stator but did change winding considerably

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Mistakes Corrected in Stephen Meyer`s RESONANCE Impedence Matching Circuit A Voltage Doubler with Inductors   21 Mar 2020

 

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*  This was published after Stan was dearly departed.

*  Each tube set has three (not two) tubes or inner rod with the middle one being a voltage
   reference.
*  Very interesting having three "plates" with the center as a reference.  Seems this would
   be a considerable aid in tuning--maybe not necessary for running, but certainly for
   getting it to that point.
*  Stephen dumps the term "resonant cavity" and fully embraces the term "wave guide".
*  The tube set length appears to be rather short, probably on the order of three to six
   inches or roughly the diameter of the water bath.

*  Uses mechanically generated three-phase power as its driving source, arranged in a wye
   configuration.
*  Three phase has an inherit ability to create a two-to-one charge ratio.
*  Figure 3. shows four of the cells with negative on the outer tube and only two cells with
   positive on the outer tube.  This looks entirely intentional to maintain the proper overall
   charge ratio in the water bath.

*  Figure 4. (schematic) has an oversight on the switch positions which can be corrected by
   looking at Figure 3.

*  Figure 5. definitely shows the DC bias necessary to promote polarization or the beginning
   of electrolysis.

*  Base frequency is quite low -- less than one kilohertz.

*  Doesn't appear to push the cell into a high voltage state.
*  Stephen actually compresses the output gas up to 80 PSI which I wouldn't think you
   would do with highly energetic and volatile monatomic hydrogen mixed with oxygen.
*  This device looks to be just an (efficiency) improvement upon typical electrolysis.

*  I don't think at this point the dual alternator approach is necessary--three tube sets with
   one alternator may be sufficient for testing purposes.
*  I will caveat this with the statement that the two alternators must be synchronized.
*  Dual alternators may be a way to fine tune the balance, just not sure.

*  I'm completely lost as to why Figure 5 shows the plus and minus wave forms a little
   skewed from each other.
*  I would think these to be exactly symmetrical since they came from the same source
   and went through identical circuitry.  Charge balancing...?  Plate surface area...?
*  The dots noted on this plot must be of great importance in tuning.

*  Figure 6 is interesting.  We don't see this ringing on the output, but we do see it at
   the test point T1, which is after the diode, but before the RLC filter, noted in this
   patent as an "impedance matching circuit".
*  Could this be from the diode slapping open and closed as little burps of charge
   work their way to the cells?
*  And why every other cycle instead of every cycle?
*  We can also see a parametric oscillation here where instead of damping, each
   cycle grows larger, but because it's three-phase, we only get three shots before
   the cycle starts over.
*  I'm not convinced this ringing isn't still happening at the cell, only there it is purely
   charge and not voltage that we can measure.  There is something very important
   about this observation and the fact that Stephen felt it necessary to document in
   his patent.  More thought required...

*  I don't have any idea what input should be given to the exciter winding in the
   alternator.  Could this be where the ringing is introduced in Figure 6...?
*  Could a permanent magnet alternator be used instead...?
*  How about a delta configuration...?   Would this throw off the charge balance?
*  How much load does the alternator place on the prime mover...?
*  We see six amp fuses on each phase leg with voltages less than 20, total
   wattage couldn't be in excess of 360 watts per alternator.  Faraday limit is
   right close to 120 watts for one LpM.  I'd be very surprised if this unit produced
   less than 3 LpM and I would think it to use much less than 360 watts per
   alternator.  However, no statistics are given in the patent.
*  Based on the voltages we see, I'm guessing automotive alternators were used,
   but I do not see this to be bounded.  There exists custom stators for wind
   generation that would produce much higher voltages.  I'm guessing with
   higher voltage components, this concept could be pushed much farther than
   Stephen chose to go with it.  If voltage can truly do work on the water, it should
   be trivial to up the input voltage and find out.

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I do know however that with no input, it should take almost no torque to turn the alternator--a tiny little DC motor should spin it with ease. 

 

I also think with short "nano" pulses, the same affect can be achieved while transferring signal to the "impedance matching circuit".  What happens at the cell is still a bit of mystery to me that needs more study.

What interests me about this and the Stan Meyer devices is the isolation between source and cell.  If electrostatic charge is a fundamental concept, controlling this charge is something not ordinarily done with common electronics--usually everything is ground referenced. 

 

For these devices, it looks like a common theme that there is a neutral reference somewhere between what we would classify as plus and minus.  Stan tended to hide this reference where Stephen explicitly defines it. 

True, he didn't hide it in the documentation, but electrically he never had actual electrodes where you would attach a measuring instrument.  This is what I mean by "hard to tune".  It's like knowing there is a reference point, but no place to actually clip a probe.

Exactly, the zero is dead nuts in the center of the water gap, hard to clip on water.

one thing is clear: water can´t store voltage potential/charge from pulse to pulse (and increase it from there) if it gets down to zero line and below into the negative ... :roll:

And what does that tell you about the DC bias voltage?

It tells me the DC bias is over-ridden by the AC waveform during pulsing, then returns to DC bias during gate off-time.  So it would seem gating is mandatory to re-establish polarization between cycles of pulsing.

 

It would also seem to me that a Tesla coil would be an appropriate mechanism to achieve the fracturing process.  Place a DC bias in series with the Tesla coil secondary and WFC, then pulse the primary with moderate to high voltage.  If a strong harmonic can be found and optimized in the 22 GHz range, the water molecules should come apart with relative ease.

Referring to PICTURES

All I see here is a pulsed step charged DC voltage, I.E the current, if there was any such flow of electrons that is, wouldn't change direction in this circuit such as it would in an AC circuitn where the potentials (B+ and B-) regularly would change polarity from + to - to + to -, etc etc.


What's referred to as zero voltage, which would be smack in the middle between the tubes/plates as I understand it, could then in other words be compared to the junction point between 2 batteries connected in series (I.E (B+)+...- ( = "zero" ) +...-(B-)).


Unless of course I've completely missed the whole point with all this, which would be just fine of course, in that case I'd have to adapt to quite another way of thinking here and in that case I would be most grateful if someone could be so kind as to point me in the right direction.

My 2C on this is that it's not an alternating waveform, it's more like a pulsed DC wave, I.E as the positive (upper) wave increases in voltage in relation to "zero" (or as I understand it, zero being the imaginary "point" in the middle of the cell cavity) the negative (lower) wave drops equally in voltage and simultaneously timewise, giving a net DC voltage across the cell at all times, or if you like there's no AC voltage across the cell, ever.
That's what it looks like to me anyway, though I may very well be wrong and that would be just fine with me.

HERE IS A EXAMPLE OF USING A NANO PULSER 

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replace this example pwm circuit with 9xb 

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Notes on Tools 
remember Stan and Stephens Wiring of alternator is for very low amp  draw as we use voltage SO NO HEAT 

Technical Test references

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Is the cro probe grounded? The scope shot is not showing the other side of the wave being flipped either. Its like your only getting the top of the AC wave. Only half wave rectified. Is it a full wave bridge diode arrangement?

he other side flips as well.. didn't show it properly..my bad....scope is not grounded.. when you ground it the motor labors excessively like it does when you earth the cell and you lose the ac wave It's an isolated system...

ahh ok its like an antenna with bugger all current flowing. ..if you can't ground the probe without closing the loop on the isolated system, try an earth ground. By earth i mean soil/dirt ground stake and put an antenna on the probe and hold it next to the cell. Might give a better indication of what's coming through. yeah it should go to earth but there will be some noise on the pipe from the building and probably AC hum as well. Try it and look at your baseline. ..as long the motor don't slow down your good I'm doing it with inductors(alternator core )

Trying to work out the "frequency bi pass coil" from Stan's alternator.

How many scope channels are you running.

I'm using 2 channels...one is reading the primary and one is reading the choke coil...primary and choke are not connected..

Per phase each should be 60 degrees of the other. Each winding is 60 degrees out from the other in the actual physical layout of the alternator, thus each A.C. Sign Wave will also be 60 degrees out from the other . That is characteristic of its design. Once all three phase's are passed thru the onboard diode bridge, that effect is reduce, but still can be seen in the rippling of the unfiltered dc output, before the regulator.

yes, but when you add one phase to the other the signal will change. Either get more or less voltage across the coil, depending if it is complimentary or not to the original sin wave...this doesn't add or take away much in voltage amplitude ..it changes the phase instead...

Also...what dc regulator...this is ac straight off the coils. This is a de regulated alternator. The pcb's you see are not connected.

 referencing the regulator as a point of reference where to look at the mentioned dc waveform w/ ripple. Did not mean to confuse. yes you can reconfigure the "y" setup of the coils so that they can assist ( increase) or oppose( decrease voltage), you are correct about that. You might want to bone up on how this alternator is built as the phasing is also a function of the construction / design of it. Just a thought.

.I've rewound the stator in a spiral coil configuration with a combination of choke coils and primary coils, totaling 9 coils all together and as mentioned before it's unregulated. This was to show Russ the effect I was talking to him about so I have not really gone into any detail on how I'm doing it....just playing around , not claiming anything. I found a diagram some time ago with reference to a frequency bypass coil, so was mucking around with that...thanks for your input though... I get it now, neat idea.

hho alternator 5v 1.6 amps Nothing new .Others have done all this but unless you cover the basics yourself you are not really searching! actually, for what I'm trying I thought about slowing the motor down because the frequency is too high for what I want to do. because the motor is weak it won't handle much above 7volts before it starts bogging down and overheating. I've taken the regulator out so I can vary the voltage through the power supply. What I really need is a variable speed 3 hp motor's put your finger in the water while it is on. tell me if you get shocked, mine don't

no shock

hho alternator experiment -- dual voltage zone attempt.

Just when you think your getting places, you connect the cell and it all disappears . What you see is aprox. 2.5 v into the alternator and about 10v out with a peak of about 20v. The second alternator comes into play and with that I can vary the voltage amplitude. This may be the reason stan had so many field windings in his alt. Note that the voltage amplitude is raising without amps increasing ! The hho production did not rise at all compared to standard , if anything it dropped .... more work to do !! I also played around with the stators of both alternators and as you can see one is plated a different metal to the other ! More on that later. During the week I also pulled everything down and put it together a little neater and stronger. It operates smoother and the next step is rewinding the stator . Stan has 9 field stator windings in his alt. right now I only have 6 , need another 3 .

Once I find the right frequency and amplitude settings I think I can do it with 3 phases. I am going to 9 phases next like stan had. I think he uses 6 of his phases for one voltage zone and 3 for the other.

I need more power for the amplitude . The DC offset is maintained when the cells are connected but the amplitude just doesn't seem to be able to keep up. When you turn the second alt. up for more power , the motor dies !So you think 3 phase or 6 phase? Very cool setup. Where are your scope leads connected? Good set up on the grinder. You should use 2 motors so you can very the frequency of one or the other? here is only one scope lead. It's connected where the cell wires join to the power leads. A second motor is next --variable speed AND more power. I think I know what to play around with to get what I want.

Try small pulleys on the motor and larger pulleys on the alternators, this should give you less rpm's and power, saves having to use another motor. Or you could try two step pulleys, one on the motor and the other on a separate shaft to drive the alternators, with the step pulleys you can try different rpm's. Just a thought or two,

I thought about that but at this stage variability is the name of the game because I don't know weather to go higher or lower in frequency .I may have to vary the frequency of one alternator to the other I'll have to try both ! variable speed motor is the go!

HHo --Rube Goldberg style --rectifiers not diodes dual DC power supply,2 x alternators , twin shaft motor ,whole bunch of diodes and stuff, = same job as a $20 pulsing kit. LOL. Rube Goldberg eat your heart out ! I added some plastic bottles as guards for the spinning shaft of the motor , good for safety !! I also used full wave bridge rectifiers instead of diodes.

 

This gave me a higher frequency dc pulse ,which did produce a little more hho than the previous pulse but the motor freaked out at 5v instead of just over 6v .In the end it is still a brute force system. As you can see I am still having trouble with raising the voltage amplitude pulse with the cells immersed in water. I show the cell with just a bit of water in it and that was all I could put in because after that I could not pulse the voltage up .

 

As it is it gives a sort of square wave pulse with a much higher dc pulse in between. Sometimes I get waves that look a lot like stans , I can increase voltage amplitude without increasing amps ,a lot of different stuff, but when the cells get connected ---- nothing-- just a dc constant pulse. I'm ripping my hair out !! At least I'm sort of half way I guess . More work to do , luckily I still have lots of ideas.

HHO Alternator tinkering to get square wave

Just showing a couple of affects while mucking around with rectifiers. I wonder if this is anything like the wave in some of stans patents ? . Also a build update for my homemade a.c gen.

HHO alternator -different pulse and build update

I have found that the wave you get from an AC alternator can vary immensely just by switching or making one contact with another. Some are predictable and make sense but others defy logic. Bridging phases with diodes and opposite polarity wires does not always end up in a short !. sometimes it can give you a higher amplitude pulse as a result! The combinations are nearly endless with 3 phases , it will be a nightmare with 9 Just have to see how I go .

first run of the alternator I built. feeding thin wire coil into a coil wound with thicker wire.

Bifilar alternator -2 separate voltage zones in one output ?

It seems like there are 2 different signals on the one lead .I haven't wound enough wire on to the coils so I'll have to rewind them again with thinner wire and a heap more turns.

 

This may change everything and something like that usually does. At the moment there isn't enough power so when the cell is connected it all disappears. It's good to finally get some waves that head in the direction I want to go but if there isn't enough power , it's hard to see the results. Stan says that he creates two voltage zones , each of opposing polarity .If this is 2 voltage zones ( whatever that looks like ) all I have to do now is make them opposing !!!! .. uuuummm ..

 

how do I do that ? 1 year ago I didn't even know what a bifilar coil was and now I'm playing with this !. I look at it as a sort of advantage because I am free of pre-conceived ideas because of my lack of basic circuit knowledge. After all , who would think that feeding negative to positive a certain way would produce a wave like that. If I knew anything about circuits I wouldn't even try some of the connections I make!! Get my point . By the way ,

 

That is the reason I'm doing this with alternators .You can cross wires and short them out as many times as you like , and they always keep going. With electrical circuits my luck is not as good . P.S. if you look at the power supply you will notice one electromagnet is turned up higher than the other !!

Try grounding your scope to give it a reference point. I got your video response to my Hydrogen DNA video. I think what your looking for will be clear once you hook it to your cell. Use tubes, not plates. 

Dune Buggy 
Version 1 

IN the Dune Buggy Version 1 , ( Stan had several versions and  Buggys)

He HAs a Rotary invertor , before he learnt of extracting electrons or other power making means stored in the water. 

I post here as it is important to note how he learnt all this and the Progression 

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That blue generator is a rotary inverter... It turns a ac generator stator and rotor coupled to a DC motor to turn 12vdc into 120vac.. I used to have one of them... They were used on power company utility trucks back in the day.. Maybe they still use them idk....

 

So if this was only used during start up that would mean Stan had another generator somewhere powered by the buggys engine that would power his ac motor once the engine was running..     

There are several videos that exist of Stan Meyer starting up the dune buggy. The most widely viewed one  is the "Backyard Buggy Demonstration" in which Stan Meyer and Charlie are using a fuel cell to start that version of the buggy.


In it the butterfly valve is held open by a 3x5 card? and then removed once the car has been started. After the car is running, it is switched over to the HHO fuel and the buggy successfully idles.

A later version of the buggy had a rediline inverter (colored light blue) To start the vehicle a switch located on top of the inverter was turned on. In the image below, it appears as though small deep cycle or perhaps motor cycle batteries were located under the
inverter to provide the initial start up power.

 

The current was then converted to  120 v AC power to drive the electric motor that turned the
rotor of the y configured alternator.

I did not run the photogrammetry program or pantone color search on them, but perhaps a member can correctly identify the parts  It looks like the generator base might have held 6 or more of the batteries. The batteries are about 4 inches wide by 6 inches ;long
 

From what we can see from the images, the electrical system consisted of some batteries, the rediline unit,
an electric motor/generator? and a y wound deregulated alternator. At his stage in the development Charlie would use the shutoff valve
on the top of the waterfuel cell to regulate gas flow .If the part number of the gray motor can be determined, then one would have
a better understanding of the design parameters.

One thing that has always boggled me about this setup which i think donald originally brought to my attention  is that it seems so lossy with its multiple stages of converting power.. DC to AC (redline inverter)  then Ac to Ac (AC motor to AC alternator) then AC to DC (rectified/ switching losses from alternator output) .. Each converter has its own percent of loss in mechanical and electrical.. which all them conversions work against total output in comparison to total input.

If the batteries are running the rediline and the rediline runs an ac motor which in turn, runs the deregulated alternator to cause hydrolysis, how did the batteries get recharged? If not and the batteries were simply running down, then was Stans buggy essential using stored up battery power to indirectly hydrolyze  water to  HHO gas to run the buggy.

How were the batteries being recharged? ( electron extract) 9XD
Where would a separate alternator normally be found on 1500 cc engine?

Well I would assume that there is a charging system being powered by the motor... Something like another alternator which is used to charge the batteries. .the batteries were charged by the stock alternator in this first Version 1985  he went on to aprox10 to 12 known versions of buggy and technology some of which was bench  top only as advanced fast.

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Get AC electrical power from a battery or DC power source
Basically Magnifies power in our case we convert back to DC
( so a rotary transformer see (9XG) as re wired to have chokes inside

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They are three alternators on this buggy, one behind the driver seat, one on the driver side at the bottom of the motor, and the stock one on the motor. Highlighted in blue are the added ones other than the stock one.

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noticed the 3rd alternator very long time ago, but was not 100% sure, but now that you pointed out, i'm  100% sure ,it shows better in this screen capture That is a better photo. That should remove all doubts they was three. One for the electric motor for start up. second one for after it is started and third stock one for the engine and all electrical of the car.

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One "problem" is that Stan used the chassis as a testbed for different configurations, The photo from the WTVN demonstration, the backyard buggy demo video, and the video clip in the GNP bookplate are all of different configurations, over a period of years. 

 

So even though one might see two generators or alternators in one photo, it doe not mean that they are still part of the configuration several years later. 

 

I'll ask GNP if they have other views of the buggy version you are asking about and if they will release it for posting.

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Advanced Applications 
Looping back to the Center rotor from  coils
and or 9XD Cell Electron Extraction.

 

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